Can Protestants and Catholics Agree on Penal Substitutionary Atonement? (Dialogue With Erick Ybarra)

Gavin Ortlund and Erick Ybarra discuss and examine Penal Substitutionary Atonement (PSA) in light of Scripture and Church tradition.

Erick’s new book: He Bore our Punishment: Discovering Penal Substitution in the Church Fathers and Beyond: https://www.amazon.com/Bore-our-Punishment-Discovering-Substitution/dp/B0GT918JN4/truthunitesbo-20

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00:00:00 - Coming Up
00:00:55 - Introduction
00:03:06 - Defining PSA
00:08:05 - Caricatures In PSA
00:18:53 - Why PSA Is Important
00:28:41 - What Makes PSA Unpopular?
00:35:40 - Christus Victor
00:46:07 - Being Terrified of God
00:54:13 - PSA In the Church Fathers
01:03:30 - Jesus’s Whole Life as Salvific
01:08:54 - PSA and Catholicism
01:11:38 - The State of Online Discourse
01:16:54 - Final Remarks