N.T. Wright on Heaven, New Creation & What Ephesians Says About Work | The Good Investor Ep. 3
Tom (NT) Wright
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11 June 2026
13 June 2026
The dominant vision of Christianity in the West—souls evacuating to heaven—is not what the Bible actually teaches. NT. Wright has been saying this for 40 years. In this conversation, he finally gets to say it to an asset manager and an NBA analyst.
Robin John and Chris Broussard sit down with Dr. N.T. Wright, Senior Research Fellow at Oxford and author of The Vision of Ephesians, for one of the most theologically dense and practically grounding conversations the show has produced. The episode moves from the Greek word for "poetry" in Ephesians 2:10, to how the early church grew through neighborly action rather than doctrinal export, to what it means that the church is called to be a "small working model of new creation." Robin pushes into what this means for Christian investors. Chris pushes into what it means for the church's racial and cultural fractures.
If you've ever thought seriously about your work, your faith, and what you're actually building — this one is for you.
00:00 Introduction
02:30 What Led NT Wright to Ephesians
05:00 Heaven Is Not the Goal
07:00 The Church as New Creation Model
09:15 Why the Church Lost Its Mission
11:00 Multiculturalism Without the Gospel
13:30 Multi-Ethnic vs. Multicultural
15:30 Economic Segregation in the Church
17:00 What Ephesians Says to Investors
19:15 What the American Church Should Learn
21:00 Culture, Creation, and the New Jerusalem
23:00 Will There Be Sports in New Creation?
28:00 Why New Creation Begins With Jesus
