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552: Jesus Gets Us & We Get Data on Christian Nationalists with Kristen Kobes Du Mez

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Kristin Kobes Du Mez


Duration

93.10


Uploaded to YouTube

15 February 2023

Added to Database

30 October 2025


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(Holy Post fans: we caught a spelling mistake after posting this video! In some places in this video we misspelled her name as ‘Kristen.’ Oops! The correct spelling is ‘Kristin’, which is how you should type it into Amazon when you look for her book. Sorry about that!)

A Christian campaign spent $20 million on two ads during the Super Bowl, but the “He Gets Us” commercials are facing criticism from both the right and left. One side says the ads did not present the gospel. The other says the campaign’s funders are bigots. And everyone is wondering if the $20 million could have been spent more effectively. Phil, Skye, and Kaitlyn offer their takes. Then, Tim Keller has a new article with his prescription for how Christianity can thrive again in America, but does it all come down to overcoming political idolatry? And a new report from PRRI looks at the sobering data about Christian Nationalism. One-third of Americans are either committed Christian Nationalists or very sympathetic to it, and the majority of them are white evangelicals. Historian Kristen Kobes Du Mez is back to discuss the data and explain the link between Christian Nationalism, patriarchy, and authoritarianism. Plus, a candy factory is sued after workers fall into a chocolate vat.

Patreon Bonus:
Bonus interview with Shane Claiborne - https://www.patreon.com/posts/78696238/
Bonus interview with Kristin Kobes Du Mez - https://www.patreon.com/posts/78701015/

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0:00 - Intro

3:55 - Workers in a vat of chocolate
6:30 - He gets us

28:46 - American Christianity

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57:37 - Interview Intro

59:00 - Kristin Kobes Du Mez
https://kristindumez.com/
https://twitter.com/kkdumez

1:11:48 - Christian Nationalism and patriarchy

1:29:15 - Demographics

1:32:36 - End Credits

Links Mentioned in News Segment

Mars Wrigley fined after two workers fell into a tank of chocolate - https://www.cnn.com/2023/02/13/business/mars-wrigley-chocolate-vat-fine/index.html

He Gets Us - https://hegetsus.com

American Christianity is due for a revival by Timothy Keller - https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/02/christianity-secularization-america-renewal-modernity/672948/

Links Mentioned in Interview Segment
Jesus and John Wayne by Kristin Kobes Du Mez - https://amzn.to/3xlmodt

Jesus and John Wayne Holy Post Subseries - https://www.holypost.com/articles/categories/jesus-john-wayne

A Christian Nation? Understanding the Threat of Christian Nationalism to American Democracy and Culture - https://www.prri.org/research/a-christian-nation-understanding-the-threat-of-christian-nationalism-to-american-democracy-and-culture/

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